Hi Derry,

This is an old one which continues to baffle me; and though I have followed up on references you have provided, no one has been able to help. I can view an SVG file including images in embedded or straight .svg mode with Opera just fine from the server; I can use FILE>OPEN and view an .svg file and claim the images just fine also. I can view an .html file in Preview mode in Opera and claim the images just fine too.

But not for the life of me can I claim the images in .svg Preview mode with Opera.

Do you have any idea -- any idea whatsoever -- where I should be looking?

Cheers,

Muzz

[This message was edited by RC on July 22, 2003 at 07:48 AM.]

Hi Muzz,

If I understand you correctly, you can Publish an SVG file that includes embedded images and then use Opera's File > Open command to open the file - and all the images show correctly. However, when you Preview the project the images are missing - is this correct? If so, then there is something amiss with the way Opera is looking for the path to the files - are you able to right-click on the missing images and see what path Opera is looking for the files?


- Derry

RC

I'm investigating same issue in opening SVG files in Opera ..

found this thread ..

http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ac5788b570d7f93bb2395a7c733c8bf5&threadid=22442&highlight=SVG

quote:

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Is the SVG plugin listed in "Window/Special/Plug-ins", and have you tried to set Opera to "Determine action by MIME type" in "File/Preferences/File types"?

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and sure enough I find that (a) I have no SVG plugin in Opera plugins .. even though I've got Adobe SVG viewer in IE .. and (b) I had not set to "determine action by MIME type".

...

It would be very useful if the preview functions in WebEngine (next version) allowed preview in choice of browsers .. drop down menu ..

- IE
- Opera
- Netscape
- Amaya etc.

and any other special browsers such as for mobiles and PDA's ..

meanwhile I'm testing a browser switch from here .. OpTool .. but it does not (yet) allow browser switching on internal URL's (files) only external URL's (http:// .. etc.).

D_L

more found here ..Opera SVG plug-in

I searched for two files NPSVG2.dll and NPSVG3.zip .. and found them in

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\SVG Viewer 3.0\Plugins\

copied (not moved) these two files to Opera installation ..

C:\Program Files\Opera7\Plugins\

restart Opera .. go to toolbar .. Window | Special | Plug-ins

and you should see Adobe SVG Viewer listed

...

now browse to here ..Adobe SVG plug-in test

and (after a while) you should see three animated SVG images to verify that Opera is setup correctly.

D_L

Thanks D_L,

Oh the plugins are installed properly. I could write a small book about about that subject. (I did check out the link though to be sure.)

No the problem is something else. Something to do with pathways is my guess, but I can't nail it down. The images are gathered when I publish, but not when I preview.

Muzz

I'm a bit puzzled by your use of "preview" .. since I can see no reference to "preview" in Opera .. even searched help file.

do you mean "Preview SVG" in WebEngine (F9)?

what are you doing exactly?

create SVG in WebEngine ..
preview SVG .. and you hope to see it in Opera?

pls expand ..

D_L

Hi Derry,

a) Opera displays the images properly in published format: both .svg and embedded .html

b) If I use File>Open and go directly to my c:\ directory, it will also display the .svg file images.

c) In .html Preview mode the images are displayed.

d) Thus it is just in .svg Preview mode that I don't get the images. I checked the mime type and it is correct, but I'll try what you suggested.

Muzz

Hi Derry,

This is the pathway if it is of any help:

file://localhost/C:/Program Files/Virtual Mechanics/IMS Web Engine V2/Preview/kschurch.svg

Muzz

RC

here is another comparison with my setup .. (I have both IE and Opera 7 installed but I cannot see how to get WebEngine to preview in Opera 7)

In Opera .. go to File | Preferences | File Types

I have three entries here ..

image/svg+xml svg,svgz
image/svg-xml svg,svgz
image/vnd.adobe.svg+xml svg,svgz

Edit each of these .. and select .. Use Plug-in .. Adobe SVG viewer

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But I'm curious to learn how you manage to instruct WebEngine to Preview in Opera as distinct from IE .. mine previews SVG content in IE as default.

Perhaps you only have Opera installed?

D_L

Derry,

I know what you are getting at. In .html there is an option concerning images which will give you the address of the image. Adobe SVG doesn't appear to offer that option.

Muzz

D_L,

Looking for some fun? Click on the Windows XP Start button and look for "Set Program Access and Defaults." You have 3 options: Microsoft, Non-Microsoft, and Custom. (They cheat and turn Non-Microsoft into Custom) Make sure that Opera is your primary browser (I am using 7.11 build 2887) and select Non-Microsoft.

The funny thing, which has me a tad suspicious, is that now even when I switch to the Microsoft option, Opera is still selected for Preview mode in Web Engine!

Muzz

By the way D_L, if under Preferences>File Types at the bottom, you select "extension" over "mime" you can view .svg directly with no disadvantages that I have been able to discover.

Muzz

RC

I've clarified my point on browser switching in a new thread here

D_L

p.s. I don't have XP .. just Windows 2000 server ..

Hi Muzz,

I don't have a good answer for why Opera is not finding your files when Previewed in SVG at this time, though we will look into it for you.


- Derry

I downloaded and installed this small free utility (42 KB)

SetBrowser 1.4

then in switching default browsers (IE 6.0 and Opera 7) ..

I find that WebEngine can preview SVG pages .. *.svg .. in the selected default browser.

Preview *.svg in Opera works fine ..

...

but, strangely, if I go to Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder options | File Types | ...

and inspect .svg and .svgz .. "associated with"

both file extensions are set to open with Internet Explorer .. regardless of default browser setting.

in Folder Options window | File Types, .svg selected .. go to Advanced and edit the "open" line and you will see the path to the browser (in my case Internet Explorer). Same applies for .svgz file type.

I have not tried changing that path to Opera.exe.

D_L

Thanks for that D_L - does this solve your problem Muzz?


- Derry

Hi Guys,

Just hit the wrong key and lost the post. Here we go again. Sorry for the slow response; been sleeping for a change.

Last things first: I guess, D_L, on the file type business -- which I have worked over numerous times both in XP and in Opera>Files>Preferences>File Types -- you have given me food for thought.

In XP file types, for .html, the Opera Icon is shown, and Opera is the execute program. Advanced is not offered.

For .svg, the IE Icon is shown and Opera is the execute program. The Opera Icon is strangely unavailable. Under Adavanced>Edit, the correct path to Opera is given [I changed it from IE];
the Use DDE is checked [I have turned it on and off]; the DDE message is "file:%1",,-1,,,,, ; and the Topic is not System but rather WWW_OpenURL.

Now here is the catch 22. Even when I switch back to Microsoft mode, I am somehow forced into still using Opera in WE Preview mode. Such are the dirty ways of the Windows browser wars, and, needless to say it leaves me just a wee bit suspicious of the image issue.

Have to go; will get back to the link and the other business later tonight.

Thanks D_L,

Muzz

Footnote:

on catch 22, and that includes switching .svg back to IE.

Muzz

Okey-Dokey: Nothing but problems here.

>> (1) D_L : Out of curiousity, I launched SetBrowser while in Custom Mode even though Opera was already listed as the Default Browser. This I did in the name of good science to check out the Registry settings. The result was a total disaster to Opera.

I shall have to delete a few dozen ...temporary internet files/ie5.content/xxxx.xxx (or something like that; files where they hide all their goodies which they like to keep on your personal life and which are not well known or readily accessible) and then do an XP upgrade; and then reload Opera. This is a road I have been down before if you haven't guessed. Gates wasn't fooling around when he said he was going to trample Opera; well I'm not fooling around either. I do not want to work in a one browser world.

Anyways, D_L, I'll keep kicking the walls on this one.

>> (2) Derry: I am trying to set up Web Engine on my second computer; AMD 500 MHz. 192 mb. ram, which because of a driver issue I have just converted from Win 98 SE to XP and activated.
But when I download Web Engine, the executable file is yielding the following:

"...\imsemginev2.exe is not a valid Win32 application." Do you have any idea what the issue is here???

Cheers,

Muzz

D_L and Derry,

My posts have become rather soap-operaish, so why not pursue this just a bit further. There are two things I am not in this world: naive, or a quitter. And there is much evidence to support both.

Before going the long route on restoring Opera; I did two things: First, I switched from Custom to Microsoft mode; and used the Browser Select program to double ensure that IE was THE web browser. I then previewed an "svg image" file in Web Engine with no browser activated; and guess what? Opera was selected -- with no images, but with Opera still totally messed up as to proper operational configuration.

Secondly, I deleted the Browser Select program, and switched to Non- Microsoft mode, which as per usual, gets automatically changed to Custom.
Opera was immediately restored to normal operating configuration with one minor exception. Two changes of variable equals bad science, so I restored the Browser Select program and started over. The result? Microsoft/Windows does not want Browser Select on MY system. (And, yes I did change the file type designations.)

And here I now stop for the matter now transcends by a considerable margin matters of relevance to this forum. There are good reasons why MS and I have locked horns; issues which I have already had discussions with Opera about at levels well above that of public forums. They are very interested; as is John Dovark of PC Magazine (private communication.) I am but a little man; but then so is Bill Gates. Put your money on Gates; but if you enjoy a good fight, know that one is going on as I write. It isn't whether or not you win that merits a fight; it is whether or not your are willing to put your principles to the test. As I have said elsewhere, it is only thus that the world gets changed. Pompous? probably. Sincere? you bet.

Profound thanks for all your help D_L; and you too Derry.

Robert, aka

Muzz