The tutorial mentioned that there was HTML in the header of the tutorial that would display an image file labeled "favicon.ico" in the URL/address bar if it was placed in the root directory. I have an "...ico" file ready, but when I displayed the code for the home page of the tutorial, no such code for a "favicon" was in the header. I wanted to copy that code and put in my own project which I published to tbe web tonight.

Anyone know the exact HTML for adding the custom header for this - and is that just typed into the custom header field of the page editor of the index page?

Also... after I get the custom header entered, I'm I correct that I just republish the index page? How does the image get uploaded, and where should it be for the upload.

Thanks, Scott

I suppose that you are asking for a favicon. I suggest that you check out this. Upload the .ico file using Foreign Object (Publish File Format). That way it will be placed in your root directory. You are absolutely correct about republishing the index page, if it's where you want your favicon to show.

Roma... didn't realize that you had a section on your website that dealt with this issue - I should have checked that first. The image that I have is a B&W gif of a small icon I created on a very old Mac many years ago before color came along - perfect for this use.

I'm getting the idea from your website's discussion of favicons (not done reading yet) that I can't just re-name the gif "favicon.ico" and upload it - that I need to convert it.

And here I thought life was going to be simple!

Roma - Read your article, and had a question about the path in the header. You have code for a location different than the root directory...

<link href="URL-path-to-file/favicon.ico" rel="shortcut icon" />

...and say that if it's in the root, to leave out the URL path. Is your whole statement above the "URL path"?

IF the favicon.ico image is in the root directory, what is the HTML for the custom header?

ALSO: I read the post - or at least one of them (?) - by the New Zealander who was having an issue with forms... and I thought I was confused the first week!!!! After reading all that, I'm hoping that I don't have nearly the problems he's facing.

It can still be simple . Go to this site, upload your gif and generate your .ico file. The website I referred to is actually Larry's. Since he has the favicon covered I didn't feel the need to have anything on my site.

The .ico is a special file format that is not .gif so simply renaming the file won't do it. A good image editor will allow you to save in .ico format.

Failing that, there are web sites that will do the conversion for free -- try Google.

[Edit: or what Roma said ]

This is the code I place in my header
<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="http://www.yourdomain.com/favicon.ico">
If your favicon file is called something else than favicon.ico it's necessary to have it reflected in the code. This code is looking for the .ico file in the root directory. You just need to change the 'yourdomain.com' to whatever your domain name is.

All of us were probably confused and frustrated in the beginning. Taking one step at the time was and still is, at least for me, the best way to move forward. With little patience and determination I am sure you'll be able to handle whatever comes your way .

Roma,

Correction, Larry's site, yes... I've been to all of your sites now several times, so I got confused even though I knew it was you giving the instructions, and "his" face on the site.

I'll re-read your latest suggestion, and Bruceee's and see where I end up.

By the way, when I finally started my first real website project, I compromised on the drop-down menus (ditching form buttons), and came up with nice working text objects (without the tutorial-suggested invisible gif over them). I'm now published with the smallest part of my online work, my resume, at www.pullmanusa.net/resume - if you are interested. My next two site-building challenges are much bigger (one for my homeshare, and my huge main website). You, Larry and Bruceee have been so helpful all along.

Scott

Roma,

That FavIcon from Pics site is very excellent... made that process a breeze.

I got the HTML added to my header (the index page has yet to be re-published). I used the code that the conversion site gave me, cause it was specific to what I created - an animated favicon!

Now the problem is... I don't have the slightest idea how I go about uploading the two files that the FavIcon from Pics site downloaded to me for uploading to my root directory. On my old Mac it was easy, drag-and-drop - provided by Fetch (the ftp program). I'm a bit new to Windows Vista (really a Mac person at heart)... and there's no drag-and-drop in SS.

Once this problem is solved, I'll probably be done with problems until I decide to add forms... looks like a nightmare!!

My new slogan: "I'm not really an idiot... I just play one in real life."

I added the same image I used for my favicon, as my avitar for this forum. With any luck it will show when I post this. This icon is one that I designed many, many years ago.

I'm going to bed now - 3:27 AM - and will check back tomorrow for any answers on the uploading of those two favicon image files (see my last post).

Thanks to both of you (Roma and Bruce) for setting me straight on this.

Well done Scott. If you are going to use both favicon.ico and the animated favicon you'll need to add both codes in your header. One for each favicon. To add the files to your root directory using SS Publisher go to 'Import Foreign Object' (either from the Object menu or using the icon on left hand side). From the drop-down menu under the 'Format' select 'Publish File' and click on 'Filepath', locate your favicon.ico. Repete the procedure for the animated favicon the same way. You should end up with two Placeholders on your page. Republish the page and you are done. If you prefer to use an independent ftp client you just need to place the two favicon files in the root directory on your server.

Roma,

You caught me before I "signed off" (actually I'll just stay signed on while I sleep). Your instructions look easy... will re-read in the AM and finish this up. Thanks.

Did you take a look at my first SS website (my resume)? If so, did you like my drop-downs?

Night... will check back in AM.

Scott

Hi Scott,
You are probably sound asleep at this moment. I had a look at your site and think you've done a great job. I am not entirely convinced though when it comes to the use of the I-Frame. The reason is that I-Frames are not very search engine friendly and mentioning I-Frame (especially when invisible) with instruction to place the mouse outside it, in order to close the drop-down menu, can be somewhat confusing for a visitor. Naturally that's just my personal opinion. Maybe somebody else will have a look and share his/her view on the subject.

Roma,

Just woke up - cat got up on something he shouldn't have and made noise, so I didn't get all the sleep I needed after going to bed so late (nearly 4:00 AM). Haven't started the final process you described last night.

I'm not all that worried about search engines finding me, since it's not like I'm in the market for a job somewhere outside my city - those days have passed. I'll be sending people to the resume website as I reply to ads and meet people. My county has the lowest job openings rate in the State of Washington (always has), even though right now it's greater than it ever has been, and employers here aren't going out looking for people beyond their job postings - hundreds apply for each opening as it is.

Good to know about that search engine limitation. Except for my index page, all of my pages have the tag "noindex.nofollow". Other than what I provided in my description, I guess there really is NOTHING for the search engines to find other than my name and the menus!!

For my next two projects - where I DO want people to find me via the search engines - I was going to use i-Frames in a much more limited way, with a traditional move page-to-page scheme.

The pop-up instruction to move off the i-Frame to close the menus was a last-minute add-on that I thought that I'd do cause I could. I've had this problem with other people's websites, so I figured other people would know what to do too, but I'd remind them. This won't be an issue in my other two websites where it will be more important that things work well.

Glad you liked my first SS attempt otherwise.

Just completed the process you described... it works... I have an animated favicon, and I didn't have to erase my cache or anything to see it - VERY COOL. I'll use the same one for all of my websites... it'll be kind of my signature.

Next question... Do you think that I would be able to use the animated gif part of this set of files that were created on my website, by importing it again through the foreign objects button and placing it on my page (maybe not for THIS project)?

Scott

I assume that you refer to the set of .ico files you've created from your gif image. If so then the answer is yes, you can use them as favicons on your other sites uploading in the same way as you did for this site.

Regarding the I-Frames, what I meant is that most visitors don't know what an I-Frame is, so even if you tell them to place the mouse outside the I-Frame that's not visible, they won't know what you are referring to.

Roma,

The term "i-Frame" not being understood... got it. Thought that in the phrase "i-Frame window" that the word "window" would give it away. I'll think on that to see if there's a better way to state it.

My question was actually referring to the animated gif part of the favicon set, not the .ico file, and not for future favicon use (which I intend to do).

I was thinking that for a future project, or maybe my credits page, I could use the animated gif by itself as an animated gif... or is it altered somehow to be only usable with the favicon file?

...I answered my own question. I inserted the animated gif and rescaled it to a favicon size (cause it was huge and blurry), and it works... but it's real small. Anyway now there's an animated gif of my icon on my credits page.

Roma, I don't suppose that there is an animated gif making website available (like the favicon site)... it would be nice to be able to make the icon into an animated gif that is larger. Do I dare ask if scrolling text is possible?

Scott

The scrolling text can be solved in quite many ways. For a starter you can have a look at this generator. There are quite many javascript alternatives. You can have a look at Dynamic Drive and check out 'Text Animations' and 'Scrollers' sections. When it comes to animated gifs you can check out one of our member's site. You might find some good recommendations there.

Roma,

Still looking over the gif and scrolling text resources. Thank you for pointing me in the right directions.

Another quick and easy question... how do I add pages to my project, just create them and use the publisher? What does the "append project" function do?

Scott

You can either select Add New Page from the Page menu or using the Add New Page icon (the one with the green cross). Append project is a feature you use when you want to combine two projects into one.

Roma,

Again, thank you for your help. That's the last question until next time I have an issue - I can see "forms" being an issue in the future.

As the only one (except for one comment from Bruce) who did all the work on this, I've probably worn you out... go take a rest!!!

Scott