I am having a problem with a white stripe appearing along the left hand side of outlined rectangles created in SS. The stripe is not seen until the page is previewed. I have determined that I can remove the white strip by either turning off "center page horizontally" in the page editor or by removing the outline from the rectangle.
Bug? Fix? Workaround?
Any assistance will be appreciated as I have a site with MANY pages exhibiting the stripe. It was not apparent with a light colored background, but since changing the site to fall colors it looks pretty bad.
I can send you a simple file illustrating the problem, or you may recreate it by setting up a new page with a medium dark background, adding a white rectangle with a black outline (thickness 3 will do nicely) and choosing in the page editor to center the page horizontally. Then preview the page.

This and similar problems have been reported in the past. The most recent thread is here.

The gist of all the discussion seems to center on turning off re-render background and/or anti-alias (Object Editor->Options tab or Quick Editor->Object tab).

And this older thread which covers a slightly different problem.

I wasn't able to replicate your fault from your description, so maybe there's some setting you have that I have not been using. It would be worth checking that you have the latest SS version Ver.2.70.f in case the fault has been fixed.

Failing that, can you upload your simple .ims project file somewhere, and post a link to it here?

Larryd, thanks for the thread reference. I had not seen that one as I searched for "stripe" rather that "spotty background." I had already tried turning off re-render and anti-alias to no avail. But I did find the last post in that thread helpful. I mistakenly referred to my background as the "background color" when in fact I was using a dark textured background tile atop a white background. When I changed the "real" background to a color nearer the tile color, the stripe was much less discernible, although it was still there.

And Bruceee, thanks for your reference -- another I had not found in my search. I tried turning "render background" off in the geometry editor, and the result was a border of white (the background color) on all four sides of the rectangle rather than just on the left.And that white border remained even when I turned off "center page horizontally."

So for now my workaround is to make the page background as close as possible in color to the tiled background. But I still find it curious, especially that not centering the page appears to banish the ghost.

see http://home.comcast.net/~mspatcher/

And thanks for all the help and ideas. This has to be the best user forum on earth -- perhaps in the universe!

If you can create this problem repeatedly, then can you post the steps to perform to cause it to appear? This would help track down the bug.

I'll do my best. I will also be glad to email you my project file including the textured background if you like.Zipped file is only 47KB.

1. Set up new page with white background.
2. Add a textured tile of a medium to dark color. (I used a darkish blue).
3. Draw a rectangle.
4. Using quick properties, turn off anti-alias and re-render, shade the rectangle a color which contrasts with the tile (say white or pink) and add a black outline thick enough to be obvious.
4. Using the page editor special effects, turn on "center page horizontally."
5. Preview the page. Note the white stripe along the left side of the rectangle.
6. Go back to the page editor special effects and turn off "center page horizontally."
7. Preview the page -- no white line!
8. To show that the stripe is coming from the background, change base background to a color as near the textured tile color as possible and turn "center page horizontally" back on. Preview. No white stripe visible.

I've had several tries at recreating this from your description (and variations!), all without success.

Yes please, can you email me your zip file (address in my public profile). Even better, if you can upload it to a web-site and post a link here, others will be able to look into it too.

Bruce, I can re-create the problem using the posted steps. It also occurs if you use the geometry and shading tools instead of the quick editor. It also does not matter if page centering is on or not.

I tested by starting with a frame border of 1 and incremented by 1. At 3 pixels and above, the white background was rendered with the frame border. At 1 and 2 pixels, no white background was seen.

If I have set it up correctly, you may download my zipped project file here but that's a sizeable IF. I have emailed it to you, Bruceee. Thanks for all assistance

Got that both ways, thank you. Your link works fine, so if anyone else is interested, they too can see it. That is a magnificent white stripe -- the best (unintentional one!) I have ever seen.

To fix your problem: select the rectangle and in the Geometry Editor > Options tab, set Render Background off.

This is the reverse of the problem we discussed here. The advice there was to put Render Background on.

In your case, it is a good idea to put Render Background off anyway, as with anti-alias and re-render also off, SiteSpinner does not create an image file. [Edit: this is true only with borders of 2 pixels or less. With borders of 3px or more, SiteSpinner V2.70f always creates an image file.]

What I think is happening is that when SS creates the image file, it is incorrectly picking up the white page background, and getting confused by something in your textured background. It is such a good example that I will on-forward your zip file to the folks at VM -- I'm sure they will be interested too.

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Thanks,Bruceee,
I did as you said [I think I tried that before] and the result is that now I have a stripe on all four sides of the rectangle instead of just on the left. Go figure. It's still the background showing through. I changed the background to red, so now I have a red outline outside the black outline.
See here

I got the same results as webwitch.

One thing I found interesting is if you copy and paste the original frames, the white stripe does not show up, but when you delete the original frame, the copied frame then show the problem.

(BTW, this is on Vista with WebEngine).

What????!!!!!

I looked at your "see here" link, and while I see a big red splash before the background image loads, there is no red outline once the page is fully loaded. Maybe you updated the page since Larry saw it?

I've replied to you directly via email, Bruceee, but I've made two images available to anyone interested since the page doesn't look the same in IE and FireFox. While the red outline is quite clear in IE, it does not appear in FireFox.
These are from screen prints from each browser.

Bruce, try this one...

Paint the background red. Then tile it with an image. Place two frames on the page. Fill one frame with a color other than the background color. Set both frames Render Background options off. (Object Editor's Re-render and Anti-alias are on).

When I preview I see the shaded frame with the background color surrounding it, and the unshaded frame has the background color showing thru rather than the tiled background.

Turning the filled frame's Render Background back on removes the red background color from around the frame. Turning on the unshaded frame's Render Background allows the tiled background to come through.

If I turn off the unshaded frame's Object Editor Re-render and Anti-alias options, the tiled background becomes the frame's background. But if I turn on the Anti-alias option (re-render still off), then the background color becomes the frame's background.

This is getting very mysterious.

I can can see that your "See here" page has changed -- the rectangle is now smaller and towards the top left hand corner.

But I still do not see a red outline, either in IE7 or Firefox. When I drag the rectangle image off your page onto my computer and look at it two different image editors, there is no red outline in the image file. So maybe the red outline that you see is not coming from the image file, but from somewhere else?

I do see the red outline on your IE7 screen shot, so I'm not going color blind, and nor is my computer.

I'm running WinXp SP2, about 3 months out-of-date, so maybe the latest patches will give me a red outline too

Thanks Larry, I will try your test, and maybe first reboot my computer just in case....

Just adding my 2c worth.
I concur with Bruceee.
WinXP SP2 and IE7.
No red outline visible here.

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Hmmmmm...
I'm using IE6 rather than IE7. Could that be making the difference?
LarryD, you see red as well as I. What browser are you using?

Well I have now updated my Windows XP (only 23 updates!) and rebooted. Still no red outline or stripe.

Larry, I tried your tests, and each time, my rectangles showed no red edges or stripes. I found no case where the red background showed through. Each time there was a background, it was the tiled one. I use Webwitch's background image, "freebaco1.jpg".

I did see the red background in the Quick Editor > Object tab, and red came up as the default rectangle color. The first issue is maybe a bug -- you could argue that the Quick Editor should show the correct background.

But I think these are separate issues from the main problem. Which is that you have cases where you see the red background, and I don't. I'm using Win XP SP 2 with all the latest updates (now!) and IE7.

I am now convinced that the image file on the "See here" page does not actually have a red edge.

Larry, try dragging that image off the page, onto your desktop and then view it in an image editor. Do you see a red band?

Here's the image again as a direct link this time -- does anybody see a red band?
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I expect that nobody will. So the interesting question remains is why IE6/IE7 on some computers is drawing a red band, when the image is in the context of the "See here" page?

Yes, I DO see a red band. ???