Hi,

Speaking of SVG, for those of you who wish to view SVG directly even if your ISP does not support the Mime Type (svg+xml) ....why do you guys use (svg-xml) at VM ... besides Opera and Flash Peak Slim Browser, I can add a third quite good one to the list: Avant Browser by Anderson Che, now in version 8.02 -- (the browser that is).

The one advantage that both Avant and SlimBrowser have over Opera is that you can view ANIMATED SVG with them. Their advantage over Internet Explorer, in this context,is that I.E. 6.00 28 is the only browser of significance which will not display .svg files directly.

Avant will display in "Desktop" mode which makes it the only major browser besides Opera with full screen viewing capability.

So, if you wish to support SVG and stick out your tongue at your ISP, then the means are both available.

Links permissible???? Derry?

Cheers
Muzz

Hi Muzz,

Feel free to post links.

- Derry

On Avant Browser;

Ah.hah!

Avant Browser

I have been using this program for a long time and have always suspected an Internet Explorer Link. Avant Browser is in fact an upgrade to IE, though I don't know to which version, and maybe it doesn't matter.

It is obviously IE's response to Opera.

Next Flash Peak Slim Browser, then a challenge to Virtual Mechanics.

Muzz

A Genuine Alternative: {See Above for Avant Browaer)

Flash Peak Slim Browser

I believe, although I am not certain, that SlimBrowser is an independent with connections to "wyldstar.net."

Until Opera resolve thier SVG animation issues (I have not yet checked out the suggested method to get SVG 6 to work on Opera), SlimBrowser is my default browser -- a role swapped with Opera if animation is not an issue.

Thus in Windows XP, I operate in Custom mode and have: Opera 7.20; Netscape 7.02; Avant 8.02; Mozila Firebird ?; and SlimBrowser 3.81 loaded with IE 6.00 29 SP1 in the background.

My Challenge to Virtual Mechanics is this: On the download; you list something to the effect that one must have IE something and/or Netscape something present. I could say, :Not True: or suggest the explicit inclusion of Opera, Avant, and SlimBrowser as additional valid and self-sufficient options to the omnipresent IE.

IE is always available in recent Windows versions. Who cares about Netscape enough for it to be given prominence? Why not start promoting the real alternatives as regards Virtual Mechanics SVG which are Opera, Avant, and SlimBrowser.

You seek specific endorsement by the major browsers of SVG. Except for the plugin situation which may evolve because of court actions, YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT ENDORESEMENT.

Committment to SVG means at some point listing it's unque advantages prominently and listing those browsers which dispaly .svg properly regardless of ISP support.

Because of the advantages which can accrue from emmbedding in HTML, I shall on an temporary basis for at least the near future speak of Web-Engines completely original hi_SVGa capabilities.

Thus do I end my war with HTML and delcare in PUBLIC, a "new type: of animation: "hiSVGA" -- HTML integrated SVG animation.

Cheers,

Muzz

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Hi Muzz,

You are right, we should not limit the browsers we list.

- Derry

Hi Derry, Harpo, and Andy

To wrap this one up: I am being hassled again over my use of Opera; but more to the point I wish to work on animation for a while.

By setting the operating mode to Custom and excluding all Microsoft products; by setting SlimBrowser as the default browser (which automatically sets the XP file type association for HTML to SlimBrowser); and by setting the SVG,SVGZ file association to SlimBrowser via Change and Browse;

(a) the default preview browser for SVG mode in Web Engine is now SlimBrowser;

(b) SlimBrowser will display straight SVG, and as noted animated SVG.

Cheers,

Muzz

Hi Muzz,

OK, thanks for the tip.

- Derry