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How about a no-follow option for the links tool? It's a pain to have to add code, then keep updatinfg te HTML whenever I change a page

I really like to no-follow oubound links to conserve PR, and what should bwe a simple addition would really help'

Thanks, Reese
 
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If you want to disable links (temporarily), there is an option in the link tab of the Object Editor (uncheck "Enable link when published").

If I am confused, perhaps you could clarify -- and what is this PR you like to conserve?
 
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Howdy Brucee,

I don't mean turn off the links, I mean a simple robots no follow , ie
<a href="http://www.pbrocala.com/" target="_blank" class="whiteText" rel="nofollow">PBR Ocala </a>

By PR I mean Google page rank (not just the official published one, but the relative importance of the page coming up in search results. MANY websites use a no- follow tag for their outbound links for that reason

There is a lot of reason to think Google subtracts PR from your pages for outbound links as well as adding for inbound.
 
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Thanks, that makes (almost!) perfect sense now.

You can do what you want already by adding class="whiteText" rel="nofollow" to the Code field in the link editor. If you want target="_blank" too, just check the "open in new window" box (also in the link editor).

I'm interested in the notion that outbound links decrease your PR (Page Rank) -- but with a PR on zero, and holding steady, it won't make much difference to me Smile Do you have a valid source for this information or could this be another urban myth?

The whole foundation of the web is based on hyperlinks, so it is a surprise to find that maybe you might be penalized for legitimate links. If you link to crappy sites and in turn have them link back to you for the sole purpose of boosting your PR, then it is quite reasonable for the Search Engines to penalize you. I imagine the SEs will figure out what you are up to even if you and your cohorts do use the "nofollow" tag.

If everybody started using "nofollow" on outbound links, it would soon lose any effectiveness it ever had. And if MANY sites are already doing it, maybe that means it is already ineffective?
 
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Brucee

I'm so incredibly stupid. I'm still using the old SS on the sites I developed on it, am going to migrate to my new machine which has the new SS. I did not realize the neww SS had add code, checked it out and... VOILA!
THe sad thing is my new sites I'm already doing on the new SS, and I just hadn't noticed it.

Yes I know it will be simple to migrate projects from one machine and version to the other, just hadn't yet. I did not want to upgrade the old machine because of the un install and reinstall and potential for screw up.

BTW, it is very excepted in the SEO forums I frequent that out bound links cause a small loss of PR. I'm not going to go into the many explanations here, cause, frankly, I don't remeber them in detail and don't feel like looking them up. Anyhow, even if it doesn't, just keeping things tidy with bots not leaving your site is a good reason to use no-follow tags.

My sites are all doing VERY good PR wise, I have one PR5, 3 PR4s and several PR3s (including my personal site, www.musicbyreese.com, which I don't maintain and still score first page Google returns on such disparate searches as "50s 60s bands florida" "Newstalgia Music" "Florida PBR" "Florida Rodeo" "Oldies Florida" "PRCA Rodeo" even for the huge term "50s 60s music" I was just 34 in Google a couple of minutes ago. So, what ever I'm doing SEO wise, I'm going to keep doing.
Thanks again Brucee, for keeping me straight with SS. You are a Godsend, even SiteSpinner Version challenged people like me can appreciate
Thanks, Reese
 
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BTW, MANY web directories use no-follow tags, it's to the piont people are collecting the ones that don't and calling them 'SEO friendly directories." I don't bother when there is just one or two links on a page, but, for a resourses page with a bunch of links, yes, I do.

BTW also, a REALLY good single link with GREAT anchor txtas the sole outgoing link on a PR 4 page can give the website it pionts at a PR3 all by itself. I know this, because I did it with a luthiers site I did for a friend of mine. THe ONLY link it had was from the index of one of my PR 4 sites (a music site) I wrote very lengthy anchor txt, and... 2 months later www.kenblount.com was PR 3! Since then I've collected more links for him, but at the time, just one link (and I searched all the other engines just to make sure that somebody had not harvested him for a directory or something.
 
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Thanks for the explanation, but I confess, I'm still a skeptic Smile

SEO is a black art. If you make any change to your site, and some time later the PR changes, it's jumping to a big conclusion that your change did it. It may be something completely unrelated -- and how can you tell?

If many people use any trick to influence the Search Engines, it soon becomes ineffective. Everybody gains an advantage, so there is no advantage. And of course the SE's soon wise up and change their rules.

So I won't be using nofollow tags, but at least you now have an easier way of putting them in. And you won't have any competition from me Smile
 
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