Firstly, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything we have discussed before. I have created what is at the present a rather ugly web page: but that is the least of my problems. I have created a maintenance, update nightmare.

http://members.shaw.ca/rrsknox/kfspdial.html
(embedded svg)

Exaggerating, but change one thing on this page and I change a dozen others. But as I sat staring in misery at it, I thought wouldn't that be the cat's screaming meow if there was a table you could fit all that stuff in --- a truly diagonally oriented table with independent axis.

When you have finished laughing, ... is it possible even??? How far could you take the idea?

And I want transparancy capabilities in the table of course.

Big eyes, small brain.

Muzz

Robert C. Smith

Keep in mind that you can do this:

Select all the object you want by creating a bounding box with your mouse and dragging it over all the object. Now select Permanant Group. Now select the Skew option (black arrow) and rotate.


- Derry

Hi Derry,

That is very useful information. Thank you very much. You know, one of these days I ought to work the tutorial instead of flying by the seat of my pants and using my typical "let's see what this does" approach.

I'll experiment, but the first question to hit me is can you add to a "permanent" group. I would imagine so. One way to find out.

First I have to find "permanent group." Murphy Smith.

Thanks again,
Muzz

Robert C. Smith

Hi Derry,

I suspect this is trivial; so I am embarrassed.
But I have been unable to accomplish what you suggested.

>>>Before I get specfic though, won't the letters also skew and rotate instead of remaining vertical?

>>>I have looked through the tutorial and Index and don't know how to create a permanet group. I think I know what a bounding box is but don't know how to create one with my mouse. I created an empty one with the text editor but couldn't drag it. "Left click" is ambiguous. I use a left handed mouse to keep my right hand free for writing. I use the term "opposite click" to remove ambiguity. (It may amount to the same thing)

In any case, I am truly lost on this. Does the permanent group come from the same bar as where the "Arrange" button is? I ask because I could not get the group button activated.

HELP!!!!! In fine detail please.

Muzz.

Robert C. Smith

Hi Muzz,

To create a Permanent Group, first you need to select all the objects that you want to group. To do this, first make sure that non of the objects are 'locked'. Next, click on an area outside of any of the objects and drag you mouse over all the objects - when you let go you should find that all the objects are now selected - this is a Temporary Group. Now click on the Permian Group icon - it is on the bottom tool-bar (an icon of three objects with a dotted line around it). You now have a Permian Group that you can skew. Keep in mind that Text objects behave differently than geometry objects.


- Derry

Thanks Derry. Thanks a bunch.

Really slick.

I don't know where that trick is in the tutorials.

Muzz

Robert C. Smith